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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

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  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  thanks Viv, at 10 I wanted to be a famous footballer, less than 4 years later a famous enough actor, unfortunately less than 3 years from then I was working for the worlds largest " publishing " house going door to door with my Watchtower. So I regard your " could be a politician " comment, the highest form of compliment. ( I hope I would be remembered in history like Churchill, not Hitler but either way fall of idealism)

  Now what statement or election promise should I make to get the country on my side?

  How about "in ten years man will land on Mars" That would get the votes and Brittish Nationalisam on my side,And if it's not an " uninformed and inflammortary comment" I might even get elected and re-elected.....if the Russians didn't get there first, that is....

  Yes I believe our American posters,have got more passionate on this thread of "Did man land on the moon." That is my opinion.

  The Rebel.
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  Dealing With ANGER!!

  by kairos in

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  little help i'd like to pass on from another cult survivor to me.. not jw but a violent, physically captive indian cult.. she says on anger:.

  it's the longest lasting emotion with have.. it takes at least 90 seconds for it to run it's course once we stop.a lot can happen in 90 seconds, and some of the most horrible exchanges and actions happen right after the anger first manifests itself.. we're experiencing fantastic results by just going for a very short walk ( 90 seconds out in the yard or other room ) before continuing the conversation.. when my wife and i come back together we can smile, embrace and congratulate each other for avoiding a horrible day.. before it even becomes anger, wait 3-5 seconds before making your reply.

  slow it down!!

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  I have heard it said " The only person who can make you angry, is yourself". Admittedly some people, situations or POSTERS on this site,can make the challenge of staying calm verses anger more challaging.

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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  The Rebel

  AFTERTHOUGHTS!

  " Don't get fooled again moon Landing"

  This post is my observation,

  This thread has stirred more passion from our American posters, and it is they who seem most offended and challenged by the question " IF" the moon landing happened. Perhaps that is understandable, because of the speech given by " J.F Kennedy" shortly before his assassination:-

  " Man will go to the moon, .........we ( Americans) choose to go to the moon......we choose to go to the MOON IN THIS DECADE"

  And Of course that was a great speech, and it may be true " One great step for mankind" but as an individual " counting my steps" or for a poor person in Niger, the money In my opinion whether man went to the moon or not, could have been better spent on mankinds suffering.

  But now let me read Nietzshe, " He who has the power has the right". And I believe if that statement is true, all that is human is lost. And yes I am still skeptical man landed on the moon.Not based on science, ( I am no scientist) but based on " He who has the Power has the right to re- write history. (Sitting Bull and Red White and Blue. )

  Anyway an astronaut should cross the airspace as if it were his own mind in search of self, and that makes all of us here astronaughts, even if from a practical and scientific vIew like many real " astronaughts" they (we) crashed and (die) died seeking.

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  We're All Going To Die

  by Garrett in

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  life has been busy, but i am now on 2 weeks vacation which allowed me some thinking room.

  and here's what's been on my mind.. we're all going to die.

  no matter what we do, our fate is sealed.

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  I think when one is witness to the effects of old age, and it's many ailments, the realisation that one is going to dies, can become one of " please death before senseless suffering".

  HEALTH IS WEALTH ! Make the most of it, if and while you have it. APPRECIATE it daily, it gives a good perspective.

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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  Oubliette, You clearly did say it was a stupid subject to debate. On page 42 of 10 you wrote:-

  " It had nothing to do with their age. It is because IT IS A STUPID SUBJECT TO DEBATE! Do you get it now! ( I highlighted it made it BOLD, CAPITALISED AND IN RED)

  So you did say, and as I wrote "quite forcefully" that it was a stupid subject to debate.I mention the above,because you bought up rational conversation, which I think brings an interesting concluding thought relevant to this debate:

  " MOON LANDING" DABATE AFTERTHOUGHTS?

  IT WAS MY OBSERVATION! that this thread stirred more passion from our American posters, and it was they who seemed most offended and challenged by the question of the moon landing having happened. Perhaps that is understandable?

  I WOULD APPRECIATE IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY AFTERTHOUGHTS?

  OR SHALL WE CLOSE THIS DEBATE?

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  New light in new branch organxation book data protection

  by poopie in

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  under coodinators comitee pt63.

  you can now request your personal records from the branch check it out.

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  So is that why they changed the baptism from " holly spirit" to " Gods spirit directed organisation" ?

  And in my ignorance I thought.... Well whatever.

  What a wonderful education the Internet is !!

  off topic but which living people do YOU most despise?

  A) The Governing body.

  B) The Elders. ( Who know its bullshit)

  C ) Watchtower Laywers ( who I doubt are even baptised, in Gods spirit directed organisation)

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  New light in new branch organxation book data protection

  by poopie in

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  under coodinators comitee pt63.

  you can now request your personal records from the branch check it out.

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  Thanks Splash, that's what I guessed.

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  New light in new branch organxation book data protection

  by poopie in

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  under coodinators comitee pt63.

  you can now request your personal records from the branch check it out.

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  I believed in the U.K under the data protection act people were legally allowed to access this information. If I remember correctly we had to sign a piece of paper so the organisation could legally keep these records on us?

  But of course not to sign that paper or to request the information, was opening oneself up to all sorts of trouble. So just to clarify my thinking can anyone answer:-

  a) In the UK can I ask under " The data protection act " my records are deleted?

  b) could I request a copy of the information the organisation holds on me, under " The data protection act?

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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  The Rebel

  Oubliette, You mentioned quite forcefully that you thought the moon landing was a stupid subject for children to discuss. Now you have had the opportunity to read " Liza Rose" insightful comments, and the evidence I have presented, showing that " The moon landing"is taught in schools to teach children to evaluate, ask questions and use critical thinking skills do you still hold that opinion?

  A Survey Conducted by E & T.

  A survey conducted for E& T magazine published by the institution of Engineering and Technology found 1 in 4 don't believe the moon landing happened, and 44% considered the missions to be a waste of money. Editor in Chief Dikon Ross said " The Apollo Landing is man kinds most outstanding engineering event, so it's deeply worrying that such a large number of people think the FIRST moon walk never happened"

  And maybe this is down to lack of science education. My guess is if you ask 100,000 people if they are dead 3% will say "Yes". None the less if the moon landing did happen I am sure we all agree, it's a shame that so many people do no believe the stars and flag stripe is up there?

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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  brand new, Oubliette, prologos,truth seeker, Lisa Rose, thanks for your comments today, it's been a blast, if you will forgive the pun. Look forward to continuing the debate tomorrow.

  p.s in the spirit of fair play Oubliette, I think you should post the photos in my second link of the children debating " Did the moon landings happen?" rather than the links you posted from the art class.

  The Rebel.